According to the photos taken out on the clubs these days it looks like Aussie's are trying to re-populate the white race. All I see is platinum blonds getting it on.However they've got it a bit wrong, firstly the blond hair...it's from a packet.
Secondly it takes a man AND a woman to make babies, not just two drunk women.
I know it's not an original argument but it really pisses me off to see women willing to prostitute themselves for the camera. Two lesbians... fine, two girls pretending they're lesbians...sad.And what half decent guy would get off on two girls pretending to enjoy each other anyway? Doesn't it bother them that the girls are actually really insecure and unhappy?
I guess it's the same as asking if guys mind that the girls in porn aren't enjoying themselves. Maybe some men are so deluded that they actually believe all those fake moans of pleasure.
It's not exactly a turn on to imagine that the girl sucking cock is a flat broke, eastern European migrant who's trying to pay the rent and find a proper job.
Or that the girl moaning from double penetration (the ladies love that one) has been abused as a child and can't experience intimacy without being physically degraded again and again.
I could go on and on about porn but I wont. Back to the photographs, I mean this kind of shit is everywhere. Anyone who's opened Inpress magazine would know that 90% of the photos are of one-type of woman in a compromising position with another of the same type of woman.
This type bores me shitless, I can't even tell the difference between them. I remember a friend of a friend was offended when I didn't recognise her after we had met a couple of times. I guess that's what happens when you try to look like every other insecure, self-conscious Barbie. Out with the hair straightener, the peroxide (unless it's in to be a brunette cos Britney was for a month), the cakey foundation and push up bra. Paint your face until it doesn't look like your face anymore and then you can fulfill some retarded, moronic boy's grade 9 fantasy. Beware the clones! The poor, self-hating bitches.
Photos courtesy of the Room 680 website. Used without permission, like totally.
26 comments:
So...Um...When can we go to Room?
Brilliant post. That's exactly what is going on. You have the awareness of a 80 year old man.
David.
And I have the spelling and grammar ability of a for year old.
David.
spot on!!
Speaking from experience, since Room is firmly located in the area that is probably best described as 'My Hood' that yes these people abound the club scene wearing their fancy clothes, and looking like the Gasp-shopping slurrys that they most certainly probably are, but deep inside they just long to be accepted in the pack, and rather than find an individuality, they firmly place their Lexus-driving selves in the 'define yourself through others' category.
God I wish I were one of them...
;-)
There's a lot of truth in what you say, and I used to hold a lot of resentment and disgust towards towards those people. To some extent I still do, but I try to cut against that nowadays. The reason? I just think they judge themselves enough without us putting them under the microscope. The only healing they will get is if people learn to look through the facade they put up and get a glimpse of who they really are. Like e ghost says, 'they just long to be accepted'. As do we all. I thinks it's best we just accept them too, and by the by, I think we should accept ourselves too.
Well, well Mr High and Mighty, thanks for the advice. I'll try to be more like you in future and save the narcissistic, exhibitionist bimbo's egos from my scathing blog rants. After all they need our reassurance desperately.
Well, well Mr High and Mighty, thanks for the advice. I'll try to be more like you in future and save the narcissistic, exhibitionist bimbo's egos from my scathing blog rants. After all they need our reassurance desperately.
Oh wow, sorry, don't think I can join in on the pity party for pretty blonde white girls with big boobs. As much as I am glad I'm not one of them, I'm pretty sure they'd look at me and think the same thing. Western culture idolizes women like this, and gives them all the opportunities in the world, but you guys are thinking "poor thing, she has no self esteem". Trust me boys, these girls are probably plenty satified with themselves at this point. If they weren't, then they have enough power within themselves to change that just as any of the rest of us do. Save your pity for the orphans...
I don't think these women need our pity, because that just ends up being condescending and arrogant. What they really need is for us to be aware of the pressures from society for them to dress and behave like that, and then not be so fucking judgemental and sexist towards them. Anyone reading this would think you want these women put in the stocks and publicly shamed.
And another thing. Anyone who considers themselves even remotely progressive and against sexism should absolutely refuse to use these words:
1)Bitch
2)Bimbo
3)Slurries
to name but a few. These are totally gendered and sexist words and I can believe people feel comfortable throwing them around.
Do people really think they are so superior to label those women narcissistic, exhibitionist, etc. Have some damned solidarity. Do you think you're so different. You do the same thing in a less explicit form.
To say that they have all the opportunity in the world is naive if not offensive. What about the opportunity to not be Judged? Judged for not conforming to that stereotype and judged when they do. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. What about the opportunity to feel comfortable with one's body. How many women have that? To not feel guilty because they grow hair where society deems they shouldn't have hair.
I'm sorry but you've managed to piss me off, as you can see. I can see how I came across High and Mighty and I'm damn sorry. Sorry I don't have enough humility to really make you stop and think. But I don't care to be belittled and crucified for trying to temper a disgusting scathing rant.
It's like Ken Kesey's pecking party. It's wrong to pick on others just to make yourself feel better.
P.S. There's a student rally tomorrow (wed 2nd) called under the slogan of kick out howard. It's about quality education, climate change and your rights at work.
xox
sorry. 2pm state library.
Seb, that's enough.
Wow, how'd I miss this little nugget of comment warfare!
Ah, Seb gets so riled up about gender/sexuality issues so easily...
I mean, I use Bimbo, Bitch and Slurry in normal conversation all the time. It's not the words that are the problem, but the meaning behind them, since I use it in a context where it's not going to cause harm, and in fact I have it used against me by my female friends, so I suppose that must mean I'm not progressive enough...
Which is fine by me: We don't live in a genderless society, and there's always going to be judgements made on whether you are male, female, blonde/redheaded, black, white, yellow, a socialist or a democrat and so on.
It's how we react and feel about these judgements and differences that truly makes us who we are. I may make fun of a friend because of one particular attribute, and they hit me right back. This certainly doesn't come from a place of hate/prejudice and I'm quite happy to say that if people chilled out and didn't get so worked up about things, then maybe they'd be level-headed enough to transcend them, I suppose...
Either way, those blonde bimbo bitches at Room may think they rock the shit and feel great about it. And we should be comfortable in the knowledge that we can make fun of them for being so ridiculously silly, and know that that's our choice.
Oops, there I go again. This sort of thing always happens right before I go to bed...
I really should have summed it up by "Seb's a silly-head who loves pan toilets and needs to recognise that difference is crucial to diversity and to growth." And then maybe go into another ramble and make some lame-ass point again...
Or something...
so, do people realise that guys {guys worth while (?)}tend to like women who have shape, personality, courage etc etc... and that they dont need to portray themselves as other than what they are?
fair enough that some women don't have confidence in themselves - part of that is the way societies define the 'perfect girl'.
if people didn't get worked up and bothered and willing to voice how they feel then nothing would happen, nothing would change.
we need people to feel frustrated/emotional etc to change the world and improve things in this crazy place.
Is this seb posting under anon so there's someone that agrees with him? That's sad seb, real sad...
While he did have some valid points, I feel svets original post didn't have as much to do with appearances and confidence as much as it had to do with girls that like to make out with each other to get attention from men. And while I'm all for acceptance of others, I think there is a line of appropriateness which they cross. And yes, I'm making the grand stance judgement here that 18 year old girls trying to act out what they see in porn movies is inappropriate and I'm not taking it back!!!!
No, that wasn't me commenting under anonymous. In fact, it would appear that the only reason sumera says that is to avoid making any substantive criticism of the content of what i said earlier. Plus I have far too much pride and dignity to do such a thing.
With regards to sumera's point on women who act pornographically having crossed a line of appropriateness: I think this misses the point. People (not just women) do all sorts of things in order to get sexual attention, or to simply compete sexually with their peers. Wether it be putting on make up, wearing a low cut top, high heels, going to the gym or wearing tight pants (as i've been known to do), to the more explicit things of pashing friends for show or sucking off a guy infront of everyone at your highschool formal (which people tell me has happened not far from our circles). All these things have a similar cause and we will all find that we ourselves do them to varying degrees. So, any line one draws for the purpose of being able to judge others is inevitably an arbitrary one, and not useful for the purposes of understanding and explaining.
In response to dean.
Yes I get riled up over gender/sexism issues. The reason is because I come across sexism everyday, and not just the obvious instances of rotating men's club billboards. There is a tide of far more insidious stuff that goes largely unrecognised, and therefore unchallenged. And it frustrates me. Fool i would be to make an issue of it everytime it occurred. I would hardly have a moments rest. No, I have to choose my battles and I think this is one forum in which it won't be so easy for people to make a joke of the issue and dismiss silly little seb with his silly socialist ideas.
But instead of making a critique of deans last post, i think i'll just summarise it, minus the jokes, because it speaks for itself.
'I use sexist language all the time but it's okay because it doesn't harm anyone in the context i use it. Plus women use it against me so that makes it more okay when i use it. If that means i'm not progressive enough then that's fine by me because we live in a sexist, judgemental, racist world. What really matters is how we react to it. We should accept it in our everyday life and then just chill out and not get emotional because then we can just transend it.
We should feel comfortable being sexist towards the women at room. And let me now leave you with the impression that i was just joking. ha ha.'
In the case that it all was just a joke. Really bad joke. In the case that it was serious and people don't see anything wrong with it then keep an eye on my blog because i think the whole issue of sexism deserves a post.
I would be delighted if you wrote a post on sexism Seb, then you could stop writing fucking essays all over my comments page.
In fact, enough essays from everyone. What happened to the simple two-liner?
sorry svet, i'll try and make this short...
"In fact, it would appear that the only reason sumera says that is to avoid making any substantive criticism of the content of what i said earlier"
I was joking about the anon comment, and I did say I agreed with some of what you said, talk about a pecking party...I'm just stating my opinion, no one said you had to think the same way. I said I don't think you have to pity these girls, I don't really think their really the victims of any more judgement then any other women. And they are probably afforded many opportunitities that they might not have if they didn't look the way they did. Personally I think you'd be the naive one if you denied that.
Do you think these women are judged more then say, a woman in Australia with a thick chinese accent? a woman wearing hijab? an overweight girl? a single mother? a black woman? Probably not, chances are they have it a lot easier and that was my point. I really don't think the women in the particular demographic that svet mentioned are going to have as hard a time when it comes to acceptance as many of the other women i reffered to.
You took some weird tangents about body hair and not being judged which I coudn't agree more with but that really wasn't what we were discussing. As it were though, these women are really only serving to perpetuate these stereotypes and you're the one coming after someone who choses not to go that route. Talk about damned if you do, damned if you don't. I didn't condemn anyone for their choices in my original comment. I just said I wasn't going to be sympathetic about their choices because a lot of women out there have it a lot harder.
And I still don't take it back about the girls acting like they're in porn. I know morality is all relative. But I think their blatantly exploiting themselves. And even if it is for sexual attention and if it is that all women do that everytime we wear make up (which I don't think we do) or whatever, then there is an obvious difference, in the manner and class that their using to get sexual attention.
Oh and I'd love to see a blog post about this, i'll so be there...
Wow.
I feel like i've entered a battle field. First of all Seb: rant much?!!! Just breathe hun, you should know all the people commenting, and Svet herself, well enough to know that your interpretation seems to have gone a bit above and beyond. I read Svet's post and thought she was making a valid point and fair judgement call about the appearance and behaviour of these young women at certain clubs. Of course not all young women act like this, dress like this or aspire to be like this - that is a gross generalisation that underestimates the female sex. What i think deserves attention is the apparent demand for such behaviour and photos - after all why would these photos be taken, encouraged and published if it wasn't thought they would sell and advertise and appeal? Have we all missed this part of the post? Plenty of young women (myself included) love attention and many will do what they can to get it - apparently even if it means turning into a barbie doll and being a fo-lesbian. All i can say is it's a shame that this is what is impressed upon young minds as not only acceptable but desirable. And by who? The audience these photos are aimed at, and my guess is that they're men.
Kisses, L.
Sorry Svet, i didn't mean to rant on like that but i guess i got sucked in.
Great post though.
Kisses, L.
I would like to see a complete list of references and works consulted for the above comments/essays. Also, double-space next time, please.
Sorry Seb, I wasn't joking. I did mean what I said, in a round about way, and don't think attacking racist/sexist language etc is going to fix a problem, but more the underlying attitudes below them.
Also I think you missed the point, since you summed it up badly, but I'll consider that a failure on my part to communicate it properly.
As I see it, I'll wait for a blog on yours to wax lyrical about it all instead of taking up Svet's me time, [and because you desperatley need a new blog anyways]
How are you people any better? Instead of congregating at Room you congregate at any one of the cliquey bars on Brunswick Rd.
How is the colour of their hair, or the fact that it came from a bottle of any relevance to whatever point you're trying to argue? Blonde hair, low-cut tops might be a passport to their world; that's no different to an Arts 'degree' and clothes from any second-hand store being passport to your world. Stop being so sanctimonious. The majority of your posts look down upon someone or some group. How easy is it to deride emos and 'Barbies'?
"I can't even tell the difference between them. I remember a friend of a friend was offended when I didn't recognise her after we had met a couple of times."
What an incredibly rude and arrogant thing to say.
Oh Sarah, you really have missed my point. I'm not really having a go at people with blond hair, I'm blond myself and I do tend to wear low cut tops every now and then as well. I'm not even having a go at these girls for hanging out at trashy clubs.
My real point here is that they're exploiting themselves for attention. I wrote about how girls pretending to be Lesbians and flashing all they've got for the camera is tragic.
I think u made that point yourself when you said that a low cut top would be a passport to their world, just like our Art's degrees. I think thats incredibly sad but completely spot on.
You're right Sarah, that IS a passport to their world because all these girls do to is prostitute themselves to this type of culture.
They wipe their personalities clean and uniformly shield themselves with Barbie-like facades because they're afraid of not being desired, because in the end thats all they have going.
hi there, thought id mention that i recently went to my school formal (yr 11) and when the dancing began all the guys sat and watched as girls danced with each other - being as slutty and sexual as possible without having sex. it was a tad off putting and made me realise that every party/dance thing i've been to i see my peers getting skanky with each other. yet as soon as one announces that she is into girls she is immediately persecuted and abandoned. mixed messages much?
ah such fun to be thrown into highschool girl politics after 3 months of being away.
xox
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